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June 22, 2009

I WAS JUST ON THE RADIO

GOOD MORNING and

THANK YOU, everyone, for your kind words regarding my remarks to the world press and the President of the United States last Friday.

YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS have emboldened me to believe: IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. (And please stay tuned for some footnotes on the illustrations)

I WAS JUST ON the great WNYC show The Takeaway discussing it, and because radio is fast, and I am slow, I was left with a bunch of notes for things I did not have time to say.

BUT BECAUSE THIS IS THE INTERNET, which offers no such sensible restraints, I share it with you here.

ON THE SUBJECT OF JOCK v. NERD, look: I don’t want to make too much of this.

OF COURSE I was being somewhat reductive for the sake of comedy.

BUT ESSENTIALLY I was talking about a difference of philosophy that sort of begins in high school, around the time most people are exposed to team sports and math, and they choose a path.

JOCKISM IS NOT ABOUT ATHLETICS per se. It’s a philosophy–of certainty vs. endless nerdish questioning; of happy conformity, vs. nerdish loner ostracisim. Jockism is suspicious of complexity, because that’s how you lose games. It’s more comfortable with what it can see, touch, feel, punch.

JOCKISM is actually a great way to win a sports game or a ground war. But, gratefully, in this country at least that’s not what most adults ever have to do in their lives.

NERDISM conveys a certain comfort with technology, a certain faith in science to be sure, but also, it builds its teams around abstractions, ideas, weird enthusiasms. From Battlestar Galactica to cosplay to steampunk; from spirit photography to antique cocktails; from political news to even sports*, paradoxically, and, as well, the idea of free and fair elections in Iran.

AND AS THE INTERNET is the greatest idea propagation engine ever invented, It’s no surprise that global geekism is on the rise

I SAID ON FRIDAY HOW CURIOUS it was that the fate of the protesters in Iran is so strangely entwined with the sleep schedule of the geeks maintaining the servers at twitter and YouTube.

THAT THE PROTESTERS’ STRUGGLE IS VISIBLE, on a granular, person by person level, gives those protesters crucial optimism that their efforts are not wasted; and it gives we viewers a new window upon a remote land and culture.

AND WHAT ME MOSTLY SEE is similarity.

YOUNG PEOPLE, CLOSER TO US in wardrobe, vision, and optimism, than we might have thought. And though great divides may yet separate us, the protesters are similar in at least one way: they all use the internet. And not in the insidious, demonizing way we were warned of, to recruit terrorists and plan attacks on civilians. But in the most geekish way: to subvert authority with an idea.

WHEN IT HAS COME to democratizing the Middle-East, we’ve now witnessed two different approaches.

ONE, INCREDIBLY JOCKISH: an invasion, a top-down imposition of a new kind of order.

THE OTHER, IS DIFFUSED, SPONTANEOUS, founded on ideas and spread by technology. If the protesters in Iran have never heard of Doctor Who, their efforts now are undeniably geekish.**

WE’LL SEE which effort is more successful. And I mean this truly, for it is the essence of geek to admit: I do not know.

WE’LL SEE.

That is all.

*(AS I’VE MENTIONED BEFORE, Any fantasy baseballist has more in common with someone who dresses as an orc on weekends than an actual athlete, because they are analyzing and processing massive data, and communicating with unknown others on the web.)

** WHICH IS NOT TO SAY that they won’t need to organize some jockish kick-ass conformity before it’s all done.

UPDATED to clean up some very embarrassing typos and, as per the comments, to spell out DOCTOR in Doctor Who.

 
Posted by hodg-man @ 6:14 am | Comments (175)
Filed under: Iran, POTUS, jocks v nerds, no sensible restraints
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  1. That is both a) thoughtfully and well-said and b) encouraging (possibly too encouraging) to all of us who have been waiting since age fifteen for a day when geek power peacefully trumps jock force. We would then live in a questioner’s world, instead of constantly being poked in the face by people who claim to have answers; and as a bonus gift, we could cash in on all our revenge fantasies from high school.

    This reminds me of one of my most formative moments, of watching students standing in front of tanks in Tiennamen Square, the summer after I graduated high school — and realizing that if I lived “there,” not “here” I would likely have been one of those students. Perhaps the truest (and craziest) sort of idealist, is the one who stands before the tank, not because she is convinced that the outcome will go as it should, not because she is convinced that this is even the best course of action, but because she believes in some sort of hope and that peaceful action with questioning is better than acceptance or bullying. But I, like you, am a geek, and thus I have to admit I don’t know.

    Comment by Francie — June 22, 2009 @ 6:42 am

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  4. Good job talking, John. You kicked that podium’s ASS.

    Comment by Standard Design — June 22, 2009 @ 8:40 am

  5. “*(AS I’VE MENTIONED BEFORE, Any fantasy baseballist has more in common with someone who dresses as an orc on weekends than an actual athlete, because they are analyzing and processing massive data, and communicating with unknown others on the web.)”

    Especially fantasy baseballists who name their teams (and players) in homage to Tolkien? (http://solonor.com/baseball/)

    I don’t want to inflate your giant ego any more than it already has been, but you were quite brilliant. Podium’s ass well kicked, sir.

    Comment by Solonor — June 22, 2009 @ 8:51 am

  6. I found your excellent comments -both then and now- to be adroit and prophetic. Just plain “wow”, sir! Thank you for such a wonderful series of statements, including the caution for restraint in our enthusiasm that “this is only a beginning”. That can be applied to so much more than the Obama Administration, be it -as you allude- reform in Iran or so many other things that we Geeks care about. You rolled a natural ‘20′, Mr. Hodgman!

    Comment by David J Rust — June 22, 2009 @ 11:08 am

  7. I loved your speech, particularly your interpretation of the jock versus geek views of the world. You eloquently expressed many of the incoherent feelings I’ve had for some time now about these two perspectives. Your final words to our president touched me particularly, as I have found it challenging to maintain my enthusiasm for Mr. Obama’s presidency in the face of his not-altogether-unexpected stance on LGBT rights. Bravo!

    Comment by Kathleen S. — June 22, 2009 @ 11:38 am

  8. Put JH comments together with Clay Shirkey’s excellent TED talk ( http://www.ted.com/speakers/clay_shirky.html ) for hours of thoughtful entertainment.

    Comment by Shamey Reed — June 22, 2009 @ 11:48 am

  9. Helium head, well played although the real world is crammed with jock type jobs. I understand making shit up like mole man names is nothing like opening the neck of a patient with a big assed cancer near their co rotted artery or even building a five story building or repairing the jet engine that carriees your lilly white candy and cocopuff filled ass in a cigar tube thousands of feet in the air.

    That said sir your genuflecting for our new guy, the points you conjure up in your helium filled world of audacity and orcs well Okay but..

    It all comes down to rewarding and building good habits that build great character…
    Dune four harumpff
    Its time to tighten up on the bullshit we have to hold this guys feet to the fire just like the last imbecile. It is a good habit to be in when it comes to obsequious toadies who run the government. Or they end up giving money to wastrels and Goldman Sachs payola with our tax dollars or save a parts distribution warehouse when it should be closed

    Your Snark is the same as the old snark.. sir snarks alot

    Comment by Horton — June 22, 2009 @ 11:52 am

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  11. Your serving of words are simply a delicious geek salad for my mind.

    Comment by a barefoot boy — June 22, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

  12. Right on, Hodgman. Right on.

    But please, please, please. Spell out “Doctor Who.” You don’t abbreviate “Doctor.” Doctor is the character’s name, not his professional title.

    I mean, the man lost his entire civilization a few years ago. The least you could do is show him a modicum of respect, for Rassilon’s sake.

    Comment by Tom Dickinson — June 22, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

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  14. Actually, I sucked at math and was even worse in sports, so I became a musician. But I still consider myself a nerd. After all, Avalon Hill war games and chess count too, right? ;-)

    Comment by Trumpet Geek — June 22, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

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  17. Dear John Hodgeman/Dead Sir,

    I just watched the youtube/About geeks sppeach for the white house corespondents dinner. I did not know there were 3 kinds of Hobbits.
    Most Excellent Sir.

    Would the answer to the 3-part Dune question be (?): Maker-Thumper-Melange?

    At your service,

    Mark

    Comment by mark — June 22, 2009 @ 2:39 pm

  18. Dear John –

    It’s Heather here. I’m, as of Friday night, the former Chair of the RTCA. And I’m someone who can’t read Excel manuals before I go to bed because learning new Excel shortcuts makes me so excited I can’t go to sleep, you can imagine how thrilled I was to have you with us Friday night. So while I can’t name answer the 3-part Dune question, I can tell you all about how to use the Solver function in Excel. For some time now, friends have been saying that my love of liner integer programing, Congressional politics and journalism qualifies as a geek or as my gentleman caller says a “hot librarian”. In a world of jocks, fellow nerds, geeks and librarians need their props too.

    So you probably understand why now, I am so proud that you were there with us Friday night. Your performance, writing, analysis and humor were beyond my wildest dreams. Plus you are such a kind soul you are. Truly, John, you are a class act and working with you made me a better person. I am very thankful that you accepted our invitation to perform. Your presence Friday night was a precious gift for all of us. -Heather

    Comment by Heather Dahl — June 22, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

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  20. Your talk was marvelous, light and serious at the same time, and this post is even better. Well done.

    Comment by kate — June 22, 2009 @ 6:37 pm

  21. I love your first footnote there: I once wrote a piece comparing fantasy football to my weekend LARP. The piece itself didn’t turn out so well, though. Also, no one but me seemed to know to what “football in No Man’s Land” referred. Ah well.

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    Comment by captain joy — June 22, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

  24. Wow. I love you, John Hodgman!

    Easily the most brilliant speech/comedy bit I have ever heard and then read about.

    Comment by Morne — June 22, 2009 @ 9:08 pm

  25. Congratulations on your speech last Friday. It was sooooooo RIFLMAO funny! It seemed as though Elijah’s chariot of fire had come back to us from heaven’s heights! Thank you!

    Suffer, please, this geekish suggestion of a correction: “…. it gives we viewers a new window ….” / should be “us viewers” / indirect object requires objective, not nominative, case.

    Comment by William Myers — June 23, 2009 @ 10:16 am

  26. “YOUNG PEOPLE, CLOSER TO US in wardrobe, vision, and optimism, than we might have thought. And though great divides may yet separate us, the protesters are similar in at least one way: they all use the internet. And not in the insidious, demonizing way we were warned of, to recruit terrorists and plan attacks on civilians. But in the most geekish way: to subvert authority with an idea.”

    Brilliant.

    Comment by Wireman — June 23, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

  27. Nice try, Mark, but only 1 for 3: it’s Shai-Hulud/thumper/water of life.

    Mr. Hodgman: I was in stitches during your speech, and I appreciated this additional exegesis. You rock (much harder than The Whom).

    Comment by Inconstant Reader — June 23, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

  28. Hodg-man, your words were brilliant and inspiring.

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  30. John… you went out of your way to state that “athletes” are not the same as jocks… athletes have actual talent, walk like gods among both jocks and nerds… and while that’s a very funny line it is also thought provoking.

    While I wouldn’t ask this question for a comedy routine you are analyzing your own words in a more serious vein, both here and on Countdown. So my question is why did you focus on athletes as “gods among us” and not also add a similar “scientist as gods among us” for the geek analog?

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  32. Sure, you are a nerd. But are you a nature nerd? Why not admit it to the world and help bring environmental nerdiness out of the closet!

    http://thenaturelady.blogspot.com/2009/07/nerd-nerd-nerd-nerd-is-word.html

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  33. “AND WHAT ME MOSTLY SEE is similarity.”

    sic. see typo. see caveman, talk like.

    Comment by WHS — July 6, 2009 @ 2:04 am

  34. Congratulations, Hodg-man. Just as we elected Obama as the leader of the free world, we happily elect you as the leader of the geek world. :)

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